*Disclaimer: I support all American Citizens rights to lawfully protest the government and encourage anyone with the will to do so to get off the couch and get active for your cause!
I have spent many hours these past few weeks watching videos and reading online reports about the Occupy Wall Street Activities that are ongoing around the world.
I really don’t understand why the Occupy Wall Street Activists are upset about the thieves stealing cash and computers. Private property doesn’t exist and we all know, wink wink, that it is good to “spread the wealth around” SHEESH! They are such tools, Stalin called them Useful Idiots…
What is different is the expectations and solutions to the problems suggested by both groups. It is this difference that I would like to outline in this blog post.
I have spent quite a bit of time the past few weeks reading articles, watching videos, and listening to interviews with those political activists involved in the Occupy Wall Street Activism.
As a Colorado Tea Party organizer and Political Activist I believe in building bridges with anyone who reverences the Founding Documents of the USA and seeks to promote Freedom, Peace, and Prosperity.
The recent articles comparing and parsing the two movements have been an interesting juxtiposition…
As someone who organized, hosted meetings at my home, and spent many hours on the phone and emailing fellow tea party activists at both the state and national level I can assure readers that the one constant point of connection with all of us was an absolute LOATHING of Marxism, Socialism, Collectivism, Communism, and Statism in all of its varying degrees and forms.
The 9-12-09 Tea Party I organized was a Celebration of the Constitution of the USA and a Candlelight Vigil for Freedom. We began the event with a reading of the Constitution, The Bill of Rights, and The Declaration of Independence.
I was shocked and amazed to witness hundreds of Coloradans standing in the rain and cold listening and cheering during the hour long reading of the Constitution.
I had brought a few garbage bags to pick up trash after the party, but did not need to use them. I only picked up one cigarette butt on the Denver Capitol steps and since I saw no one smoking, figured it was probably already on the grounds before the party started.
If points of connection exists between OWS and the Tea Party, I have yet to see them. While both groups may be protesting the Political criminals in our midst, the remedy to the problem and the various solutions proposed seem to me to be polar opposite.
Marxism will never bring Prosperity and Freedom, much less Social Justice and equality.
To even imply that Tea Partiers would use and/or promote Collectivist tactics to achieve Economic Wellness in America is ridiculous and objectionable.
I support any group standing up to political tyranny in America, as long as they follow the law. But I heard yesterday that the hundreds of tents set up on a grassy plot of land at the Denver Capitol are being well tolerated by the police and the politicians even though such activities are illegal.
I have to question the willingness of police to allow such criminality.
Jenny Hatch Last I heard their were 1,525 people arrested at Occupy Wall Street Demos. Let’s See… that means that 1,525 MORE people were arrested than at ANY of the thousands of Tea Parties these past two years.
My friend Charlene and I had a great chat on Facebook about the two types of protests, here it is: (My Responses are in Italics) Jenny Hatch
“So who did start this, OWS (or the Tea party for that matter)? Why can’t it be about a bunch of truly pist off, fed up people? Isn’t that what both of these protest/movements are? Why can’t both of these truly aggrivated people come together and fight their common enemy? I am so annoyed with the them, vs. us when it comes to left and right I want to cry. Sorry, I just feel like if both sides looked hard they would realize they are fighting the same battle just with different armor…”
Charlene, I could never stand in solidarity with the OWS activists although I do protest against many of the same institutions that they do. The Teaparty clearly articulated a lawful, peaceful change through legal means…elections. The current crop of protestors, while many mean well, are being manipulated by Marxists who want to destroy the American Free Enterprise System with violent revolution. I pray that the police are able to defend and uphold the law without anyone dying, and I hope the politicians will stand by their oaths of office to uphold and defend the constitution and the laws of the land. Allowing the protestors to “speak” by breaking laws is noxious to many Americans. If I hadn’t posted it, would you have even heard that a woman was pressured to allow a strange man to sleep in her tent, and then she was raped? Didn’t make the national news. I pray that the innocent will go home, especially the females, before this powder keg blows into real violence.
I agree that an innocent woman being raped is horrible but isn’t that what freedom is about,, to refuse that person access to her tent and not participate if she was told that guy had to sleep in her tent. I for one would be like, no, um get the hell away from me, no one will tell me I have to share my tent when i feel I don’t know that man well. I am not saying it is her fault, but like so many of my and the younger generation we have been sheep for so long, it is taking a while to wake up from being led around and told what is in our best interest. It is an organic movement much like the Tea Party was in the begining and it isn’t about left or right from what I can see or about a corporate “sponsor” or political one for that matter, that is why so many people are scratching their heads and can’t figure out the “list” of demands, lol. BTW, I haven’t participated in any of the marches and I am just a lonely independent that is observing both sides with interest. I just see two groups of people fed up with the way our country is being run and want a change and they are trying to do it the best ways they know how to go about it. The TP people think that change will come from the electoral process set in place, it has been greatly corrupted and is barely hobbling along with crutches and infection, however. The OWS, is doing what their generation knows best, to defy, to rebel, to get upset, because basic human nature is to rebel or give up when being lied to, oppressed, and controlled they chose the 1st option since the second one wasn’t working. Also, just like all “movements” (both the OWS and TP) you will have the crazies, the evil and subversives, in time they are usually weeded out by the core group that is true to the goal. Sorry, just my 2cents. I really respect your comments and love to have someone to talk with that I know is seeing the issues facing our country. I dont’ want you to take my rants (lol) as an attack, just trying to see where all sides stand ♥
Don’t ever apologize for sharing your opinion. I have spent many hours watching videos and reading articles about both movements and how the media interacts and portrays each group. The writing is on the wall in my opinion and those in the streets now are being duped by the Marxists amongst us. I bet 80% of them are good, honest souls who just want to have some justice, and believe me, I DO TOO. But it has to be fought for in the system we have, not after a violent overthrow of the American System. No justice will be available to anyone if we enter into a Global Collective, which is what the goal has been all along for those evil doers at the top.
I agree, infiltration in both aisles by the “evil” people is so sad. It all ties in with the begining of (and call me a conspiracy theorist) but the Fed Reserve act and the “banking” systems takeover, maybe the illuminati, maybe not but just doing the bit of research I have, I see that this two party system is ruining America, creating a divisiveness that I really don’t see in the average population. Yeah, some people are more superficial, some more learned, some more or less trying to live happily, love their friends and family. Yes, differences abide but I think that is where it is so beneficial to see others opinions and them to see yours but still be respectful. If I had to say something that makes me like either movement is that they both are fed up and doing something about it. I may not agree 100% with either side but I love the conversation both of these movements have started….BTW, if you could name one change that you think needs what would it be?
Charlene, The Conspiracy is no theory. I have read so many books linking that early group of Psycho Socialists to just about every dark and evil thing that smacked the American Family during the 20 th Century. The greatest change will come when parents chose Family Sovereignty. When Mothers take personal responsibility for the health, education, and welfare of their own children and then do the daily work necessary to give them a happy and healthy life, that is when we will see real change. As for the greatest need, I believe it is for Mothers to get their butts back in the kitchen and beat the conspirators at their own game. The evil doers know that if they can traumetize women during birth, get them hooked on anti depressants and bottle feeding baby….they can take the whole family down a very long and expensive path of disability and disease. Answers? Homebirth, Ecological Breastfeeding, whole foods (especially when Mom is pregnant and breastfeeding), and keeping children away from vaccines and drugs in favor of orthomolecular medicine and nutritional therapies when ill. That is my definition of Utopia. These lifestyle changes coupled with a strong spiritual life that encourages complete fidlity to spouse and children is what will restore the family to its proper place in society.
Agree, I think that so much of what you said is why people are upset, some can’t even articulate why. If you look at when our country really started it’s downward spiral is when women bought the lie to be better, to be whole to be accepted is to be more male, ego driven and competetive. This has been an AWESOME discussion! ♥
You might be interested in reading the LDS health code known as The Word of Wisdom. It mentions conspiring men right at the beginning of the section. Mormons have often interpreted this passage to mean Cigarette Companies, but I believe it encompasses all of them, every single person who has conspired to poison and intoxicate people for profit and genocide. It always makes me laugh when I hear a fellow Mormon claim they don’t believe in Conspiracy Theories. I often wonder if they have read this section of scripture where the Lord himself said that Conspiring Men would try to destroy for profit. I think you might enjoy reading it:http://lds.org/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/89?lang=eng Thanks, it has been a lovely chat… Jen
More Articles on the various crimes at the Occupation:
Here is an interview with John Hickenlooper, Governor of Colorado explaining why he made the choices he did around the Occupy Wall Street of Denver Demonstration. Click to view video and read article
Here is the press conference video of the Governor of Colorado and the Mayor of Denver explaining how they justified the cleanup of the Occupation camp out at the capitol. I believe the police handled it perfectly!
This Edition of the Magazine is focused on the whole Gardasil Debate that has taken place these past few weeks since Michele Bachmann made an issue of it in the last GOP Debate.
Since the Gardasil conversation is one that for me goes back to before the Vaccine was even put on the market and I have some skin in the game in the form of serious blowback on me and my family for speaking out against the mass vaccination of the worlds preteens, it was pure JOY to watch this debate be thrust more fully into the spotlight because of the courage of one female candidate for President.
Most people cannot comprehend an evil so complete that it would presume to deprive future Mothers of the ability to create a healthy child because side effects from vaccines are so devastating that they murder, maim, and make impossible for a woman to get pregnant in the first place.
Yet since the 70′s the wicked in our world, some tied to the Howard Hughes Medical Institute have been hell bent on finding the ways and means to sterilize both animals and humans without surgery. President Obamas Science Czar John Holdren wrote about the need for a vaccination that would sterilize women in his book Ecoscience.
Citizens of good will cannot even fathom that these Eugenics Purists would quietly go about the business of making it happen, yet they have, and many of us who have been screaming about it on the internet have felt the repercussions from standing in the way and trying to disrupt the “Genocide by Injection” currently taking place around the world. Many of the articles, posts, and conversations that are a part of this edition of the Magazine are tied to this reality.
I also had the great joy of interviewing Barbara Hartwell and Jonathan Elinoff on my radio show the week of the ten year anniversary of 9-11. These outspoken and hard working activists have a far different take on the events of September 11th than the average American, and I felt it was important to give them some time to explain the reasoning behind their views.
Please enjoy this edition of the magazine! Just Click on the Heading of each Section to read…
My friend Becky had an eight pound boy at home last night. She asked me to be available to help with her three older children if she gave birth during the day. But since she gave birth at 2 am, I was not able to attend. While I would have loved to be around just to feel the energy and spirit of a homebirth, it felt right that this most sacred and gentle of moments take place quietly, without too many extra people hanging around. And so this morning as she proudly shared pictures of Her son on Facebook, I felt joy and peace that another blessed child had made it safely to the earth into his parents hands.
For the past six years I have relentlessly debated Vaccines on this blog and on the web, mostly at Free Republic but also at the personal blog of the late Cathy Seipp, (who I believe was a paid shill for Drug Companies), as well as the comment sections of her articles at National Review Online. Cathys Blog no longer exists, and her archive at NRO is spotty in regards to finding the posts where she unilaterally pushes the vaccine on teens. The old chats at Free Republic are still on the web, but the trackbacks to my blog no longer function because I have been hacked so many times.
Most of the links in my old posts are dead, but I saved enough of the debates here on my blog so that you the reader can get a sense of what was being discussed.
As stated in the most recent edition of Blogging Mothers Magazine, I believe I have been repeatedly poisoned by criminals tied to the Drug Companies these past five years. This radio Show Documents my story: Click to Listen
Here are the posts and online debates going back Chronologically:
Dr. Blaylock is one of many physicians in the United States who has stood publicly for nutritional healing therapies over Drug Therapies. This interview is a fifteen minute smackdown of probably the worst example of Big Pharma Deception and Fraud that has ever hit America.
“He talks about the dangers of Gardasil and the upcoming flu vaccination season and the threat it poses to unsuspecting Americans who are inundated with flu vaccination propaganda on a daily basis.
Thus began my writing adventures. I feel like I should insert here that I am not a writer. I don’t have any training in writing and make many grammatical and speling errors in my books and blog posts. I also don’t have much time for editing and perfecting of books and posts. All of my books, blog posts, and comments on the internet are riddled with typos and a general smashing of the English Language. And my ability to communicate has constantly been questioned by those English Teacher trolls who generally have nothing to add to a debate beyond, “Hey Jenny Hatch, you suck as a writer because you mispeled a word.” I usually ignore these people as a waste of my precious time, but it does get annoying, they seem to think that those of us sharing on the web have to pass some certified test of grammer and syntax and word usage and editing and punctuation!!!!! if we don’t we are somehow not worthy to rite or share our thoughts on the web. Rong! We Mom Bloggers are just as able and willing to add decent web Kontent to the Marketplace of Idears as anyone in the werld.
Since I started writing this blog in 2005, one of the main goals has been to help families get to the root cause of illness. I was a vaccine damaged child and feel that my life was altered because of a bad reaction to my inoculations. I have struggled with lifelong DEADLY chemical and food sensitivities. With more runs to the ER than anyone in the family, I have been one big histamine storm after another since I was two. Asthma, Allergies, and skin problems were and are my daily struggle and although I have been greatly aided by my willingness to cleanse my liver and gall bladder and use alternative healing as much as possible, I still struggle with asthma and allergies.
I just went into my stats and realized that most of my top posts, in terms of traffic, for the past few years are all tied to vaccines. People are looking for this information and want to educate themselves with the facts. I thought it might be a good idea to link to my top twenty five posts to make it easier for you the reader to find this information. With the debate raging in the Blogosphere over gardasil this past week my traffic has jumped exponentially and many new visitors are coming in for a look for the first time.
Since my Blog is dedicated to Healthy Families here are the top posts, most of which have to do with Vaccinations.
This is perhaps the most insulting claim against home birthing Mothers, that we are somehow putting the “experience” of childbirth over the health and well being of our children.
It is a tired and pathetic claim and at the risk of insulting just about anyone who has chosen to have an epidural, does ANYONE at all believe that a Mother who requests every possible pain relieving drug an OB can offer is thinking about what is best for her child while she gives birth?
The poo can be flung both ways… here is a video backing up the assertion that Mothers looking for a tranformative experience are indeed thinking about what is best for baby.
Instead he stayed home and bathed several times and I applied all of the oils in the Raindrop Technique Kit from Young Living. This fabulous application costs about fourteen bucks per treatment – each kit comes with enough oils to do eleven or twelve “raindrops”. By Monday night he was feeling much better and yesterday went back to his busy, activity packed life.
I have observed my children over the years push and push and push with this intense high school Mormon Teen Schedule. I believe it is completely appropriate for them to occasionally take a day to rest and re-hydrate to prevent more serious illness. I let them decide when this needs to happen and never push them to do more than they feel they can accomplish.
I was so pleased with the efforts of Michelle Bachmann during the latest debate and her interviews with the press around the whole Gardasil issue that I wrote up a couple of comments sharing a few links and blasted around the web looking for news sights and blogs where I could post without being a member.
The people at Free Thoughts blog took issue with my comment and we shared a nice, thoughtful friendly chat in the comment section.
…MUST be worth an indictment, Right? Somebody going to jail? Or at least being arrested and tried for crimes against Humanity? Or at least the deaths of these People?
Somebody needs to be held accountable…Rick Perry might know who those somebodies are.
PS Why is it that these people ALWAYS get a pass and nobody ever goes to Prison for these murders? They pay off the families with blood money and gag them up after the settlement and life goes on…
One of the most fun things I did over the past few days was read hundreds of the hilarious tweets that came gushing onto that hash tag like so much water busting from the sky during a hurricane.
Here is my Tweet Stream which includes my Tweets and the FUNNIEST Retweets from the #AttackWatch hashtag conservative campaign. The only criteria used to pick these tweets was if I found myself LMAO as I read.
As for the administration? As I said in one of my own tweets, they just can’t resist the Orwellian instincts…
“Has the Republican Party lost its mind? Are they trying to alienate every mother, grandmother and young woman in the Unites States?
I thought the Republican party believed in the paramount importance of individual rights and responsibilities, financial accountability of the federal government to the taxpayers and primarily, the importance of getting big government out of our lives, especially our families’ lives. Well you won’t know that from watching the recent Republican presidential debate.
Full disclosure: I live in New York City and am not a conservative but my vote is up for grabs.
Michele Bachmann was the only candidate tough enough to question Rick Perry about his mandatory HPV vaccination policy. Perry accepted $30,000 from the makers of the HPV vaccine and his chief of staff went on to earn $300,000 working for the vaccine company. That former chief of staff, now Merck lobbyist is, naturally, a major Perry fundraiser. Perry basically forced Texas families to choose between giving their pre teen girls an experimental vaccine for a sexually transmitted disease or an education. Now if that isn’t big government in our lives in a big way what is?
Naturally everyone jumped all over Michele Bachmann. Apparently Bachmann did not receive Secretary Sebelius’ memo strongly recommending that the media not discuss vaccine safety issues. Yes I am serious. Sebelius said, on the record, that she personally “reached out” to politicians and the media not to discuss vaccine safety issues. Scary right? I wish Secretary Sebelieus had “reached out” to the 2 million families affected by autism, 90% of whom are dissatisfied w/ NIH autism research.
Well Rick Perry argued that he “knows” the HPV vaccine is safe. Hmmmmm….Has Rick Perry ever been a woman, a mother, or a teenage girl? Has Rick Perry raised over 20 children? Has Rick Perry had in depth discussions with his daughters about menstruation and sexually transmitted diseases? Somehow I doubt it, but I bet Michele Bachmann has. It was very sad to see the only person standing up for the rights of these pre teen girls was a woman and a mother, Michele Bachmann. These girls cannot legally give informed consent to this dangerous experimental vaccine – yet they are asked to take all the risk. Cervical cancer is almost 100% preventable with annual pap smears. How about starting at the start and making sure all these girls have access to basic health care before forcing them to be inoculated or be thrown out of school?”
I completely agree with Katie, and this issue is why I formally left the Republican party this past year. My vote is also up for grabs, actually it always has been, I always vote for the politician who will uphold, protect, and defend the Constitution of The United States of America.
Michele Bachmann has my complete endorsement for POTUS, but anyone who can prove they are free from the taint of Crony Capitalism will earn my vote.
…MUST be worth an indictment, Right? Somebody going to jail? Or at least being arrested and tried for crimes against Humanity? Or at least the deaths of these People?
Somebody needs to be held accountable…Rick Perry might know who those somebodies are.
PS Why is it that these people ALWAYS get a pass and nobody ever goes to Prison for these murders? They pay off the families with blood money and gag them up after the settlement and life goes on…
