Witch Doctor Medicine

Catherine Seipp’s daughter is starting college. After some motherly advice, Seipp observes that when it comes to life-saving medicine and vaccines, the far Right boasts as big a nut bowl as the far Left.
“One of the first things I had my 17-year-old daughter do when she began college this fall was make an appointment to get the new anti-HPV (for “Human Papillomavirus”) vaccine at the university’s student health center. HPV is the sexually transmitted virus that can cause cervical cancer, and the new vaccine (which in my view should only be celebrated, as should all medical progress) has been attacked by religious fanatics almost as soon as it was introduced. ‘Why, this will only encourage young girls to have sex!’ Or so that kind of thinking goes — if you can even call it “thinking.””
I have spent the past few hours participating on the comment section debate on this post. Here are my comments: (Scroll down the article to get the rest of the conversation…)

Comment 1:
Jenny Hatch :
I participated on Cathy’s Blog after she wrote a piece on witchdoctor medicine for NRO. What struck me as I chatted with the regulars on her Blog was that several of the parents participating mentioned they had a child who was autistic, yet were so confident that the vaccines didn’t have anything to do with it, they became extremely angry at me when I suggested and shared links proving that plenty of conservative parents have major issues with vaccines.
What I did not get then, and still don’t, is why Cathy and the rude people who post on her blog felt the need to use derogatory language against those of us who live the Natural Lifestyle. I was called a Droopy Milky Ghost (with loud applause from Cathy) for mentioning that I nursed most of my five children for three years, and was generally dissed and put down for defending my lifestyle and being a home birthing, anti-vaccine, natural mother.
If Cathy feels comfortable shoving a toxic vaccine on her daughter, all power to her. But as a non-vaccinating parent who is very skeptical of the Medical Profession (Bad drug interactions do cause the deaths of tens of thousands of people in America every year), especially when it comes to birthing and raising children, I would like to challenge Cathy to accept a more tolerant view of those of us who are living this lifestyle.
Only an Allopathic system could get millions of women in America to eat Horse Pee and make them think it was actually doing them some good. Premarin, which stands for “Pregnant Mare Urine” is a drug that has been, and still is, encapsulated horse pee touted for its hormonal benefits.
Sorry, if anything sounds like witch doctor medicine, it is the horse pee. I’ll stick with my nutrients, herbs, oils, and Chiropractor for wellness care.
Jenny Hatch
Mommy Blogger
Sep 27, 2006 09:34 PM
Comment 2
Jenny Hatch :
Tom,
You Said:
“Why shouldn’t you be made fun of?”
I’ve been made fun of and laughed at for most of my adult life for the lifestyle choices I have made in regards to my family.
I can take it.
It is easy to dismiss and belittle what is perceived as “non-conformist”. What is more difficult is to truly educate yourself and then proactively live the Laws of Health. They are eternal laws that are just as relevant in our world as the 10 commandments.
Wether someone chooses to live by those laws or not is irrelevant to this discussion. The fact is that breakage of those Health Laws will result in consequences just as predictable as the consequences that result from not keeping the commandments.
The evidence that we in the west are breaking those laws of health are increasingly evident in the youngest members of our society.
Why do you think the autism rate is skyrocketing and children are melting down in dissociative and agressive behaviors?
Have you ever lived with an autistic child?
I personally know several families living this nightmare, and a recent documentary shares testimony such as “I wanted to drive my car over a cliff rather than live one more day of this autistic nightmare.”
When I tried to share links, quotes, and engage in debate on Cathy’s blog, I was met with sarcasm, disbelief, and name calling.
Here is a link to that conversation,
so curious Pajamas readers can see for themselves how that debate on witchdoctor medicine payed out.
And here is my blog response to the discussion:
I’m not afraid of being called any number of derogatory names, but if someone is going to stereotype my lifestyle as a form of witchcraft, and call me a negligent and ingnorant parent, I am going to respond and attempt to defend my choices and the choices of parents like me.
Jenny Hatch
Sep 28, 2006 07:37 AM

Comment 3:
Jenny Hatch :
Michael,
You said:
“While there is significant evidence that breastfeeding is the best way to bolster an infants immune system (the mechanism of passive resistance via the breast milk is well modeled and understood) to forgo modern medicine completely is grossly negligent and invites disaster on your children for the sake of your ideology.”
Just curious what disaster I’m inviting on my children.
They are all healthy, normal, and quite nice. From the feedback I get from teachers at school, scout leaders, friends at church, and neighbors, my children are kind, smart people who love to have fun and are friendly to other children.
Disasters of health, as mentioned above, come from ignoring the Laws of Health.
When a mother decides to feed her child dried cow snot, heats it up in a microwave, and then confidently feeds it to her child, some consequences, often unintended, but sometimes deadly, are the result.
How about if we make a deal….I’ll be willing for parents to be prosecuted for medical neglect for not vaccinating, if in the same law we include that mothers who choose not to breastfeed will also be prosecuted for crimes against humanity. Sound fair?
The repercussions of ill health and disease that results from parents not feeding their little ones human milk thunder into society like an earthquake, with taxpayers picking up much of that tab in terms of WIC feeding programs, Medicare bills, Education for children who are mentally challenged, and ultimately, Lonely souls who have never bonded with anyone – which is difficult to quantify economically, but still has an impact on our society.
Until parents are willing to make the sacrifices that come with breastfeeding long term at a much higher percentage, I will persist in believing that our Marvelous Medical System is so much smoke and mirrors.
Imagine if doctors took on the task of pestering women to breastfeed the way they bully them into vaccinating!
But dangit, nobody makes any money off of that~!
Jenny
Sep 28, 2006 10:24 AM

Heathy whole food is our families number one form of “medicine”, (no voodoo priests in sight)

Comment 4:
Jenny Hatch :
Tom,
You said:
“Are the anti-hpv vacine people aware of the terrible moral scourge in our midst called penicillin? Are they doing anything about it? Are they opposed to anti-aids research? Can they imagine (probably not) what all them crazy homos will be doing when there’s an effective aids vaccine?”
I am very much a live and let live person. I completely support Cathys choice to vaccinate her daugher, and I support any parent who chooses to vaccinate a teenage girl for whatever reason.
Where I have issues with the whole vaccine scene in particular, and the Medical world collectively, is the force and compulsion that is increasingly playing out in our society.
When you have
doctors forcing Chemo,

Mothers being accused of kidnapping their own kids and being put in jail for it just because she does not agree with her doctors diagnosis
and
Fathers being blamed for a wifes psychosis, while the real culprits walk….
then I believe it is HEALTHY to have some honest debate about where we are headed with our “better living through chemistry”.
You have just outlined some of the unintended consequences from antibiotic use. And I would suggest that for every drug and surgical procedure that is performed in our hospitals, often the unintended result is a disaster, which if the patient had been fully aware of, they never would have agreed to take the drug or have the surgery.
The doctors have an old saying…”the surgery was a success, but the patient died”. This is meant as an ironic joke, but when you are the loved one of the person who has died or been permanently maimed…..it’s not quite so funny.
I am all for individuals having the FREEDOM to choose for themselves what they will do with their own bodies. For parents, who must make health care decisions for and in behalf of their children, I believe we should have the right and the privledge to say yes or no to ANY medical procedure or drug, no matter what the doctors and the pharma companies, who have such a vested financial interest, say.
After countless hours of research, my husband and I have chosen to mostly say NO to Modern Medicine. If others feel comfortable saying yes, all power to them.
That being said, I believe taxpayers should have full disclosure to know how tax money is being spent on Medical Care. We have a sickness society, where most of the money is being spent on disease. I would love to see us move to a more proactive wellness society – and that means we must start in the womb, before a child is even conceived, teaching mothers how to build healthy children with good nutrition and then gently birthing and nursing them.
Until we get to the point where these are the priorities, we will never achieve the type of societal health we all seem to be looking for.
I can promise you, it will never be found in a vaccine or a pill full of chemicals.
Jenny
Sep 28, 2006 08:30 PM
I would LOVE to see much more of this type of debate at Pajamas. It is so healthy to have a chance to discuss these health care issues, rather than just pretending “American Health Care has never been better!” Or as Cathy said: “the new vaccine (which in my view should only be celebrated, as should all medical progress)”
Celebrated? With the current dismal track record of big pharma, this new “medical progress” should be treated with the utmost skepticism and fear.
Before we get socialized with universal health care, I think we need to decide if the Allopathic model is what we truly want everyone to have access to.

Jenny Hatch
UPDATE: October 7th, 2006
You know? Occasionally I surf the web just to see where my articles and name comes up on various blogs and family web sites. The other night I was surfing and I found that I was a major subject of comment on Cathy Seips Blog a few days ago.
Here is the Link
You have to click into the comment section in order to get the full monty in terms of discussions about me and my lifestyle.
After I read all this, I truly had tears running down my face I was laughing so hard. I just had to chime in. I have completely forgiven Donna B. for calling me a droopy milky ghost. If she finds something I wrote funny, something that I intended to be funny….funny…well, she is my buddy.
I was thinking this morning that Cathy was probably paid $850,000.00 by Merck to write that Witch Doctor medicine piece touting the benefits of the new vaccine.
Were you Cath??? You have written before about the need for Corporate shills to come clean about connections before they write….I was just wondering if the temptation to shill became too much.
Here are some more comments from Cathy’s Blog….it is obvious she and her fellow travelers on that Blog have a similar allegiance to The Church of Modern Medicine and look at those of us who have apostatized from it as little more than cretins, so her recent plug for Mercks new vaccine probably was legit…but I still have to wonder.
Here are some more fun Comments from Cathy’s Blog regarding the War between Medicine and Natural Family Living:
Go Here
And Here
And Here
If you don’t want to wade through all of those comments, or if they have been deleted because they are getting too old, here is a Blog entry I did on that chat on her Blog.
Jenny Hatch

FDA Told U.S. Drug System Is Broken
“The federal system for approving and regulating drugs is in serious disrepair, and a host of dramatic changes are needed to fix the problem, a blue-ribbon panel of government advisers concluded yesterday in a long-awaited report.”
Who has the will to reform something so big, so wealthy, so powerful, and so deadly?
Politicians? Lobbyists? Busy stay at home Mothers?
“Much of the institute’s report focused on a central gap in drug regulation: While the FDA demands strict data on efficacy and safety from clinical trials before approving a new drug, less attention is paid after the drug reaches the market.
A safety problem that occurs once in every thousand patients, for example, would be unlikely to show up in clinical studies of a few hundred people, but it could result in thousands of serious side effects once the drug is approved and being taken by millions. The current system for monitoring adverse effects is nowhere near as systematic as the evidence collected before approval, the report said.
Besides, said R. Alta Charo, a panel member and bioethicist at the University of Wisconsin at Madison, patients who participate in drug trials are carefully selected, and hardly typical of patients in the real world who usually suffer from more complex problems.
“A drug tested in a few hundred or thousand people is very different when used by millions, especially over long periods of time and in conjunction with other supplements,” she said.”
The pattern of the drug companies has been to wait until Congress acts, or the risk/benefit ratio is too far on one side, and then they will pull a drug off the market, while introducing the “bigger, better, faster” drug right as the old drug has worn out its welcome with the public.
Remember it was Eli Lilly who gave us LSD, which only was pulled from the market after an act of congress and still continues to wreak havoc on the lives of those addicted to it. It is a little known fact that Prozac is a chemical cousin to LSD, and also produced by Lilly, it has ruined the lives of many people. The most tragic of which are those who are now dead, disabled, in jail, or who have lost custody of children or had beloved spouses walk when homelife became too crazy.
I took Prozac for several months and experienced a whirlwind of toxic side effects.
Here is a final quote from the article in the Post
“The report represents a watershed moment after two years of controversy over the safety of such widely used drugs as pain relievers and antidepressants.”
May the lies, conspiracies, and evil be exposed, and may the American people pull free from the web of enslavement that has wrapped its ugly, toxic tentacles around our bodies and minds.
I propose that we dump the FDA, legalize all drugs, make it so no one has to have a prescription for anything, stop all Government funding of health care, and let the American People sort it out for themselves. Let each consumer pay each type of doctor out of pocket for the services they are interested in using. Only then will the playing field be leveled to a place where all forms of healing are living by Free Market Principles.
Drugs have saved my life numerous times. I keep an Epi pen with me at all times as I have deadly food and chemical allergies. Several times when I have gone into anaphylactic shock, it was the drug that saved my life.
I am NOT Anti-Drug. In an emergency situation, I can see and I have experienced the miracles that have kept me alive when my airway shut down. That being said, I would like all of the fraud to be exposed and the drug companies to have to compete in the marketplace of ideas as one of many healing modalities available in our society to help nurture and heal a sickly person.
Jenny Hatch

Click on the flowers to get to the most comprehensive list of Anti-Psychiatry links on the web.
I belong to a group called Mind Freedom and they send out email alerts once in a while to share the current status of the freedom movement in mental health, and the psychiatric professions response to us. Mind Freedom is made up of individuals who have serious issues with the current medical dogma regarding mental health and who believe psychiatry has been completely corrupted by Pharmaceutical Interests.
I have shared my story of coerced mental health care in serveral places on the web and most notably in my book A Mother’s Journey, my story of healing after post partum psychosis.
When I was originally healing from the trauma of being treated by the psychiatric profession in 1989, I kept a detailed journal of what happened, and this combined with my medical records formed the final chapter of Kathy Kendall Tacketts book, Post Partum Depression, A comprehensive approach for Nurses, which was a text book used in nursing schools.
Kathy contacted me in 2003 and told me she was doing a second edition of the book and wondered if she could again finish the book with my story. I said that would be fine. The book Depression in New Mothers which had been greatly expanded and enhanced by thirteen years of research and study on Post Partum Depression is probably the most comprehensive and complete book of its kind. Kathy is very pro-breastfeeding, and shares alternatives to drugs that are compatible with nursing when a new mother is depressed.
When I was fighting the psychiatrists legally while incarcerated in a state mental hospital in Pontiac Michigan, the number one reason I did not want to be medicated was because I was breastfeeding my daughter and wanted to continue. None of the staff seemed to understand how important this was to me, and just dismissed my desire as further evidence that I was insane. It was very comforting to me to receive the copy of Depression in New Mothers that Kathy sent to me last year after it was published, and realize how passionately she feels about this topic and how competently she shared the facts with her readers. I feel extremely grateful to have been a part of her work for the past fifteen years.
Here is a link to some of the reviews of the book. And here is a link to an excerpt from the book.

Here is the update from David Oaks, Mind Freedom Founder and Psychiatric survivor.
NEWS: Your Mind & Your Freedom – 1 August 2006
http://www.MindFreedom.org – please forward
The American Psychiatric Association Published
A Heated Debate About Psychiatric Survivors,
Mental Health Consumers and “Antipsychiatry.”
The Debate Mentions MindFreedom Several Times,
And The APA Published Replies From MindFreedom.
BELOW read the debate, letters, essay and more.
The American Psychiatric Association has published a heated back-and-forth debate in the August 2006 issue of their _Psychiatric Services_ journal about the history of the social change movement for human rights and alternatives in the mental health system.
The debate mentions MindFreedom International a number of times. The American Psychiatric Association published ten letters, including several by MindFreedom members, board and staff.
BELOW are two of these published letters, along with the original essay that sparked this controversy about our movement’s history published in their June 2006 issue, plus how you may read all ten published letters.
Please forward this exchange widely to help inform the media and public.
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_Psychiatric Services_ 57:1212, August 2006
published by American Psychiatric Association
Letter
The Evolution of the Consumer Movement
To the Editor: The essay “Evolution of the Antipsychiatry Movement Into Mental Health Consumerism” (1) in the June issue attempts to impose false labels and a skewed history on activists for human rights in mental health, including the nonprofit organization that I direct, MindFreedom International.
The origin of our social change movement cannot be traced to a few antipsychiatry theoreticians and campus intellectuals. Many of us actually credit the civil rights movement and our own experiences of psychiatric abuse as the original sources of our inspiration. We can and do organize on our own. The authors use the undefined term “antipsychiatry” 34 times in their essay, applying that label to many of us who do not describe ourselves or our groups in that way. There are, for example, compassionate, practicing psychiatrists who play an active role in MindFreedom.
The authors claim that psychiatry has addressed our key grievances “to some degree.” Even if some psychiatrists have reduced the dosages of neuroleptics prescribed, overall neuroleptic prescriptions are skyrocketing. Neuroleptic prescriptions for youths have shot up more than fivefold in less than a decade (2). From our perspective, both electroshock and psychosurgery have experienced a resurgence in popularity within psychiatry and the mainstream press. Many states have greatly expanded commitment criteria, and most states have implemented involuntary outpatient commitment. Courts now order some MindFreedom members who live peacefully in their own homes to take neuroleptics involuntarily.
The authors appear to observe us from afar through a flawed lens, which may explain their factual errors. The well-respected activist Leonard Roy Frank is not the founder of Support Coalition International. Support Coalition International and MindFreedom International are not two separate organizations–our name change occurred in 2005. The essay aligns the history of our movement with the “radical left” to a great extent, ignoring decades of outstanding work by conservatives and libertarians in fighting psychiatric abuse. Today, conservatives lead the grassroots opposition to mental health screening in schools.

Consider the bias inherent in this sentence: “Psychiatry continues to fight antipsychiatry disinformation on the use of involuntary commitment, electroconvulsive therapy, stimulants and antidepressants among children, and neuroleptics among adults.” The authors appear to transmogrify into “antipsychiatry disinformation” all public education efforts that are inconsistent with the American Psychiatric Association’s official position.
This is my 30th year working for human rights and alternatives in the mental health system. We have made mistakes. We are not perfect. But I am very proud of our social change movement, which includes concerned family members, advocates, attorneys, mental health professionals, and interested members of the public. The authors claim that the psychiatric profession finds it difficult to communicate with us. The fact is that the American Psychiatric Association has generally refused our repeated invitations for conversation.

Somehow, some people who have experienced serious human rights violations in the mental health system–including unscientific labeling, forced drugging, solitary confinement, restraints, involuntary commitment, electroshock, and more–have reached deep within the human spirit and found the power to speak out and unite nonviolently (3). Please reply with dialogue, not distortion.
David Oaks
Footnotes
Mr. Oaks is director of MindFreedom International, Eugene, Oregon.
References
1. Rissmiller D, Rissmiller J: Evolution of the Antipsychiatry Movement Into Mental Health Consumerism. Psychiatric Services 57:863-866,2006
2. Carey B: Use of antipsychotics by the young rose fivefold. New York Times, June 6, 2006, p A18
3. Mahler J, Unzicker R, Foner J, et al: Taking issue with taking issue: “psychiatric survivors” reconsidered. Psychiatric Services 48:601,1997
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_Psychiatric Services_ 57:1214, August 2006
published by American Psychiatric Association
Letter
To the Editor: Psychiatric Services has done a disservice to any of its readers who might want an accurate picture of our movement for the human rights of psychiatric consumers/survivors. Anyone familiar with our history would have a hard time recognizing us from the bizarre and highly inaccurate article that appeared in your most recent issue.
The authors got it partly right when they mentioned two of our long-time leaders, Leonard Frank and Judi Chamberlin. If the authors had interviewed either of them, their account might have some resemblance to reality. Instead, the authors seem to have relied completely on articles and books, rather than first-hand reports from the people who have actually been involved.
As for myself, my 35 years of activity in our movement wasn’t inspired by any books written by Drs. Szasz or Laing or the other seminal thinkers named, although I respect their contributions. It came about from my ten years in a state hospital as a child, after I received electroshock treatment at age six at the hands of one of the profession’s most honored child psychiatrists. And most activists in our movement have also become involved because of their own experiences.
Though I would hardly expect a journal of the American Psychiatric Association to support our criticisms of psychiatry, I think that it would be much more useful for your readers–and more interesting–if you exposed them to accurate reports of our positions and activities. Any psychiatrist who relied on articles such as this to get a picture of our movement would be living in a dream world.
Ted Chabasinski, J.D.
Footnotes
Mr. Chabasinski is a patients’ rights attorney, Berkeley, California. [Ted is also a MindFreedom International board member.]
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HOW TO READ ALL TEN LETTERS:
For a limited time, at no cost you may download a PDF with all ten letters, and/or read the text of each of the ten letters, in the August 2006 issue of _Psychiatric Services_ on the APA’s web site:
http://ps.psychiatryonline.org/content/vol57/issue8/?etoc#LETTERS
or use this smaller web address:
http://tinyurl.com/r8vqp
When these letters become unavailable from the APA for free, go to the MindFreedom International web site for information about how to access them at no cost, or contact the MindFreedom office.
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BELOW is the text of the original essay:
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_Psychiatric Services_ 57:863-866, June 2006
published by American Psychiatric Association
Evolution of the Antipsychiatry Movement Into Mental Health Consumerism
by David J. Rissmiller, D.O. and Joshua H. Rissmiller
Abstract
“This essay reviews the history and evolution of the antipsychiatry movement. Radical antipsychiatry over several decades has changed from an antiestablishment campus-based movement to a patient-based consumerist movement. The antecedents of the movement are traced to a crisis in self-conception between biological and psychoanalytic psychiatry occurring during a decade characterized by other radical movements.
It was promoted through the efforts of its four seminal thinkers: Michel Foucault in France, R. D. Laing in Great Britain, Thomas Szasz in the United States, and Franco Basaglia in Italy. They championed the concept that personal reality and freedom were independent of any definition of normalcy that organized psychiatry tried to impose. The original antipsychiatry movement made major contributions but also had significant weaknesses that ultimately undermined it. Today, antipsychiatry adherents have a broader base and no longer focus on dismantling organized psychiatry but look to promote radical consumerist reform.
Radical antipsychiatry in the past four decades has changed from an influential international movement dominated by intellectual psychiatrists to an ex-patient consumerist coalition fighting against pharmacological treatment, coercive hospitalizations, and other authoritarian psychiatric practices.”
Jenny Hatch

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Chat at Free Republic on this Blog Entry

This post is dedicated to Rusty Yates, husband of Andrea, and all of the family members of those who have taken Anti-Depressants and had horrific consequences.
God’s grace was with our family while I was on the court ordered psychiatric drugs 17 years ago, and we did not have to deal with the extra ballast of criminal behavior and it’s consequences as the Yates family has. Since 1989 I have not takent one pill. And we have happily welcomed four additional children to our family. Tom Cruise is right, nutrition and natural healing, gentle exercise, and quiet living are what heals and prevents emotional distress….not chemicals.
The very thought of my sweetheart, lover, best friend and eternal companion Paul being blamed for any wacky, suicidal, homicidal, or just weird behavior while I was taking anti-depressants is absolutely horrid to even contemplate. He has been the very reason I was able to work through all of my issues and come through mental illness and make it safely to the other side into wellness.
Rusty Yates has been the whipping boy in the press and in people’s minds for far too long. All of that rage thrust at the poor man should be squarely shoved right at the Big Pharma companies that have had quite a ride on the backs of innocent people for the past sixteen years.
In her latest letter Ann Blake Tracy said:
It is LONG past time for the world to learn what has happened in this
tragic case!
Those who accompanied me to Houston were Amy Lubrecht from Ohio whose
husband Michael drowned their one year old son while under the influence of
Effexor, Jay Baadsgard, from Washington state, whose son Corey, while under the
influence of Effexor, held his class at gunpoint for 45 minutes and five years
later still has no memory of doing it, Antonio Ortiz, whose fiance shot and
killed her twin boys while withdrawing from Zoloft and starting Paxil, John
Marsh, from Texas, whose son Paul killed his best friend while under the
influence of Paxil, and Jurgen Viktor, whose son Jared, after only six days on Paxil
together with his girlfriend on Prozac stabbed an elderly friend 61 times.
All of us were there to let Rusty and Andrea know that they are FAR FROM ALONE
in their drug-induced nightmare. This is going on nationwide – worldwide and
needs to end.
But before I go on I want to make it VERY clear that I am SICK AND TIRED of
the press beating up on Rusty Yates!!!! Rusty is an incredible human being
who has stuck by Andrea through all this in spite of losing all five of his
children. Who can even begin to imagine the pain and suffering he has endured?!
Andrea has not even had a chance to endure it because they have kept her so
completely drugged up since that day.
But Rusty has had to face the reality
every day without his entire family. They are all gone. Where is the compassion
for this man that should be there? He could not have seen this coming. He
was not a professional. In a similar case in Utah a father was arrested for the
murder of his family after his wife stabbed and bludgeoned their three
children and stabbed herself to death while withdrawing abruptly from two of these
antidepressants mixed with a steroid. Of course the father was found not
guilty and it was determined that the wife did this, but he spent four months in
jail after losing his whole family. What horrific ordeals for these
fathers!!!
The fact is that Andrea was the third nurse in a three month period to go to
court for killing her children while on an antidepressant. The other two
were married to doctors. One in Illinois on Zoloft killed two and one in
California on Prozac killed her three sons and shot herself in a suicide attempt.
Then in the middle of Andrea’s first trial a female doctor in Illinois on
Effexor stabbed her two sons, killing one and seriously wounding the other. Then
in the middle of this second trial for Andrea a young mother in Ft Worth, TX
on Zoloft drowned her one year old son. That is only to list a few.
Wyeth added the “homicidal thought” side effect to Effexor due to
PRE-marketing data – in other words they knew that homicide was possible with their
drug BEFORE they ever marketed it. That would involve premeditation on the part
of that company, would it not? Why would they be granted any more slack than
the rest of the population? If they knew that Andrea drowning all five of her
children was possible with their drug, why did they not disclose that? AND
if they knew that, WHY is Andrea the one who was on trial for murder? Just a
few questions to hopefully make us ponder which direction we are going in this
drug-induced insanity. [Keep in mind that this drug company is the same
company who cursed the world with Fen-Phen and Redux – how many people did this
company kill with those drugs?]
These horrific antidepressant-induced murders are happening all around us
every day. This is why reading our local newspapers anymore is more like
reading news from a war zone than what we used to know as the America we used to
call home. What I have witnessed over the past 16 years is enough to blow
anyone’s mind. In fact I have had reporters at Court TV ask me to stop telling
them about a case because they could no longer stand to listen to the graphic
details (and that was only after sharing two which they had asked me about!).
But after three Zoloft murder cases by young people back to back on Court TV
the reporters are even asking out loud on the air, “What is this with kids and
Zoloft?” These antidepressant-induced cases are very violent and very much
out of character cases that leave everyone shaking their heads.
The truth is that these drugs are much too similar in action to LSD or PCP
and the scientific research to show that is clear. Would anyone have been
surprised at Andrea’s actions to learn that someone had been secretly slipping
her LSD or PCP every day? Of course not!
Ann Blake Tracy, Ph.D.,
Executive Director, International Coalition For Drug Awareness
EFFEXOR/HOMICIDE
ANDREA FOUND NOT GUILTY & OUR VISIT TO HOUSTON LAST WEEK
By now most of you have heard that Andrea Yates was found not guilty by
reason of insanity today. Last week you all heard that there were six of us from
ICFDA who went to the courthouse in Houston for a press conference in support
of Rusty and Andrea Yates and also to publicly ask that the warning of
“homicidal thoughts” which was added to Effexor’s label last November, to be added
to the labels of ALL antidepressants.
Here is Dr. Tracy’s testimony to the FDA explaining how the drugs cause people to become violent…
Dr. Ann Blake Tracy’s September 13, 2004 to the FDA
I am Ann Blake Tracy, PhD, head of the International Coalition for Drug
Awareness.
I am the author of Prozac: Panacea or Pandora? – Our Serotonin Nightmare and have testified in court cases involving antidepressants for 12 1/2 years.
The last 15 years of my life have been devoted full time to researching and writing about SSRI antidepressants.
Research on serotonin has been clear from the very beginning that the most damaging thing that could be done to the serotonin system would be to impair one’s ability to metabolize serotonin. Yet that is exactly how SSRI antidepressants exert their effects.
For decades research has shown that impairing serotonin metabolism will produce migraines, hot flashes, pains around the heart, difficulty breathing, a worsening of bronchial complaints, tension and anxiety which appear from out of nowhere, depression, suicide – especially very violent suicide, hostility, violent crime, arson, substance abuse, psychosis, mania, organic brain disease, autism, anorexia, reckless driving, Alzheimer’s, impulsive behavior with
no concern for punishment, and argumentative behavior.
How anyone ever thought it would be “theraputic” to chemically induce these reactions is beyond me. Yet, these reactions are exactly what we have witnessed in our society over the past decade and a half as a result of the widespread use of these drugs.
In fact we even have a whole new vocabulary as a result with terms such as “road rage,” “suicide by cop,” “murder/suicide,” “going postal,” “false memory syndrome,” “school shooting,” “bi-polar” – every third person you meet anymore – along with the skyrocketing rates of antidepressant-induced diabetes and hypoglycemia.
Can you remember two decades ago when depressed people used to slip away quietly to kill themselves rather than killing everyone around them and then themselves as they do while taking SSRI antidepressants?
A study out of the University of Southern California in 1996 looked at a group of mutant mice in an experiment that had gone terribly wrong. These genetically engineered mice were the most violent creatures they had ever witnessed. They were born lacking the MAO-A enzyme which metabolizes serotonin. As a result their brains were awash in serotonin. This excess serotonin is what the researchers determined was the cause for this extreme violence.
Antidepressants produce the same end result as they inhibit the metabolism of serotonin.
These are extremely dangerous drugs that should be banned as similar drugs have been banned in the past.
As a society we once thought LSD and PCP to be miracle medications with large margins of safety in humans. We have never seen drugs so similar to LSD and PCP as these SSRI antidepressants.
All of these drugs produce dreaming during periods of wakefulness. It is believed that the high serotonin levels over stimulate the brain stem leading to a lack of muscle paralysis during sleep
thus allowing the patient to act out the dreams or nightmares they are having.
The world witnessed that clearly in the Zoloft-induced murder-suicide of comedian Phil Hartman and his wife, Brynn.
Connecticut witnessed the Prozac-induced case of Kelly Silk several years ago. This young mother attacked her family with a knife, then set the house on fire killing all but her 8 year old daughter who ran to the neighbors.
As she stood bleeding and screaming for help she explained, “Help! My mommy is having a nightmare!”
Out of the mouths of babes we will understand these nightmares for what they are. She understood that this was something her mother would do ONLY in a nightmare, never in reality.
This is known as a REM Sleep Behavior Disorder. In the past it was known mainly as a drug withdrawal state, but the largest sleep facility in the country has reported that 86% of the cases they are diagnosing are patients on antidepressants.
Because this was known in the past as a condition manifesting mainly in drug withdrawal you should see how dangerous the withdrawal state from these drugs will prove to be. That is why it is so critical to make sure patients are weaned EXTREMELY slowly so as to avoid ANY chance of going into a withdrawal state.
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Mark Taylor’s September 13, 2004 to the FDA (first boy shot at Columbine High School)
I am Mark Allen Taylor and I am a victim of the SSRI antidepressant era. I took six to thirteen bullets in the heart area in the Columbine High School shooting when Eric Harris on Luvox opened fire that now infamous day.
They almost had to amputate my leg and my arm. My heart missed by only one millimeter. I had three surgeries. Five years later I am still recuperating. I went through all this to realize that SSRI antidepressants are dangerous for those who take them and for all those who associate with those who take them.
I hope that my testimony today shows you that you need to take action immediately before more innocent people like me, and you, do not get hurt or die horrible deaths as a result.
As Americans we should have the right to feel safe and if you were doing your job we would be safe. Why are we worrying about terrorists in other countries when the pharmaceutical companies have proven to be our biggest terrorists by releasing these drugs on an unsuspecting public?
How are we suppose to feel safe at school, at home, on the street, at church or anywhere else if we cannot trust the FDA to do what we are paying you to do? Where were you when I and all of my classmates got shot at Columbine?
You say that antidepressants are effective. So why did they not help Eric Harris before he shot me?
According to Eric they “helped” him to feel homicidal and suicidal after only six weeks on Zoloft. And then he said that dropping off Luvox cold turkey would help him “fuel the rage” he needed to shoot everyone. But he continued on Luvox and shot us all anyway.
So, why did these so called antidepressants not make him better? I will tell you why. It is because they do not work.
We should consider antidepressants to be accomplices to murder.
Articles that Dr. Tracy sent along to her email group on the Andrea Yates Trial:
Anti-depressant warning may help Yates
05:49 PM CDT on Wednesday, July 5, 2006
By JANET ST. JAMES / WFAA-TV
AP
Janet St. James reports:
Andrea Yates’ treatment for post-partum depression played a big role in her first murder trial. Now the pills she was prescribed for depression may be the key in her second defense.
The FDA in November quietly ordered a safety labeling change for Effexor XR, a warning that in rare cases patients will experience “homicidal” thoughts.
Harris HEB psychiatrist Cathal Grant has been treating patients for depression for over 20 years.
He says many doctors probably don’t know the warning has been added to Effexor. But this extreme side-effect doesn’t surprise him either.
“Anyone who’s suffered from severe depression will know that it can cause anger and irritability at times, and there are a certain percentage of those people who may be homicidal,” said Dr. Grant.
Most anti-depressants do warn of side – effects including suicidal thoughts, hostility, aggressiveness, and manic reactions. Homicidal thoughts are not on any other anti-depressant labels, we could find.
Still, the vast majority of people take the medicine safely. Defense attorneys will no doubt argue Effexor’s new labeling could prove Andrea Yates did not.
E-mail jst.james@wfaa.com.
Ann Tracys Email Group

Here is a picture of me taken after two years of “treatment” by the psychiatric profession. I was court ordered to eat the medicines for fourteen months – They gave me Lithium, Prozac, Stelazine, and Haldol in an overpowering cocktail of chemicals that deprived me of any emotion whatsoever and left me toxic and depressed state for many many months.

No doubt you have heard the story of Abraham.
The story seems to be picking up steam. Yesterday I was listening to the Glen Beck talk radio show and the host asked 12 people to call in with opinions on wether the state or the parents should make this medical decision. The vote was 10 for the parents and 2 for the state. I was really pleased to hear those calls live on the radio.
Here are a couple of story links:
Teen cancer patient seeks to stop judge’s treatment order
Teen Loses Fight To Seek Alternative Cancer Treatment
Free Republic Threads: Here, Here, and Here
Poll at World Net Daily
USA Today
Interview with Abraham on Hannity and Colmes
SEAN HANNITY, CO-HOST: A few weeks ago we introduced you to 16-year-old cancer patient Abraham Cherrix. Now after a painful and debilitating round of chemotherapy, Abraham and his parents decided to pursue alternative medicine.
But just last Friday, a judge ruled that Abraham must go to a Virginia hospital for treatment and declared his parents neglectful for allowing their son to pursue therapy that included an organic diet, herbal supplements, all supervised by a clinic in Mexico.
Now, Abraham will have to report to this children’s hospital tomorrow afternoon to receive his court-ordered treatment, barring a last-minute action by a different judge tomorrow morning.
Abraham Cherrix joins us now in this exclusive interview since the decision to compel treatment. Also joining us, his father, Jay Cherrix, and their lawyer, John Stepanovich.
Welcome, all of you, to the program.
Abraham, first of all, you went through chemo. It didn’t work. It nearly killed you. You wanted an alternative and you found one. Correct?
ABRAHAM CHERRIX, CANCER PATIENT: That’s right.
HANNITY: First of all, I know I speak for this audience. We want you to get well at the end of all this and you shouldn’t be having to be fighting this in court.
A judge is compelling you to go to a hospital and receive therapy that you don’t want to receive, chemotherapy tomorrow. Have you decided what you’re going to do?
A. CHERRIX: Yes, I have. I’m not going to receive chemotherapy, no matter what. This is my body, the body that God gave to me and in the Bible it says for me to take care of this body. It’s my temple.
And I believe strongly that I have the right to take and do with my body as I please to do with it, because if you don’t — are not able to do with your body what you want to, then you have no rights whatsoever.
News Stories linked from Abrahams Site
Forced Chemo Case in Utah
Jenny Hatch